Support for Pioneer CDJ-2000 and CDJ-900

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Support for Pioneer CDJ-2000 and CDJ-900

Postby delange on Fri Jul 30, 2010 5:29 pm

I’m in no way a fan of DJ software but Serato just announced a partnership with Pioneer enabling a better integration of the new Pioneer media players and I wanted to share it here. It shows once again that software companies such as Serato are more interested to team with Pioneer than Denon. Probably due to Pioneer having a larger market share in the club DJ world. Here’s a piece of an article send out through their newsletter:

Serato and Pioneer have partnered together to bring you seamless integration between Serato Scratch Live software and the new Pioneer CDJ Digital Media Players. Once a CDJ-2000 or CDJ-900 is connected to a system with official Rane hardware running Scratch Live software, the Serato music library and track information is instantly browsable with the CDJ’s color screen and dedicated hardware controls. This includes tracks, crates, full color album artwork (CDJ-2000 only), track overviews and cue/loop points.

CDJ-2000 and CDJ-900 support will be available in Serato Scratch Live 2.1 and requires Pioneer Version 3.10 firmware
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Re: Support for Pioneer CDJ-2000 and CDJ-900

Postby Steve.C on Fri Jul 30, 2010 8:34 pm

It shows once again that software companies such as Serato are more interested to team with Pioneer than Denon


Its kinda sad to see that serato chose to support a player with a "dead platter" rather than to support a player with a real spinning platter (DN-S3700). Well I guess we will see on Aug 16.
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Re: Support for Pioneer CDJ-2000 and CDJ-900

Postby Richie boi on Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:46 pm

Yea, I went to a Serato seminar last month and were told this was coming. New Zealand is very much dominated by pioneer.

It is pretty crap but what can ya do! I think maybe if Denon built the 12" solution the Serato users have been talking about for so long, then maybe we would finally see a spinning platter supported.

I do think it is funny however how other manufacturers are been made to jump though hoops and make "ITCH" players but then support pio straight off the bat, I would of thought it would be in the softwares interest to do the opposite.
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Re: Support for Pioneer CDJ-2000 and CDJ-900

Postby brichi on Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:43 am

from what I have read in the past, it is much easier/quicker to do native support for HID devices like the cdj's, the 3700 is straight midi not HID so it is harder to get the spinning platter to work properly. I know companies software like Reflex has support for the platter but you see how popular that is :)

also Serato does not totally ignore Denon, it does have native support for some of their controllers. and if Denon announces support on the 16th in a hybrid mode kinda way, it proves once more that serato had difficulty get the midi platter to work perfect so they went the hybrid way and we all know serato is not going to release half assed support for the 3700, if they cant have it work perfect they wont release it otherwise people will trash Serato because denon didnt build their players with HID support


This is right from Seratos mouth (or fingers really) on their forum just to back what I said
I'm not sure whats up with all the speculation here - There is not secret agenda going on here, no conspiracy.
I thought I have been quite clear about why they are not supported but I'll recap:

Serato was not consulted or approached during the design process of the Denon 5500 and 3700 decks. The 3700 / 5500 decks have no touch sensitivity and spit out much lower resolution data than what we would require to support them properly. There are some tricky things we could do to try and work around this (read: technical hurdles) but the results are still pretty unsatisfactory. Either terrible warbling playback, or terrible sticker slip. Trust me, using the control signal on a USB stick will be much, much tighter.

I think it would reflect badly on both Denon and Serato if the products did not work together properly.

About ITCH? ITCH products are a collaborative process involving the hardware company and Serato from day one. We work on what data we get from the hardware and what the software needs when the product is in the design phase, not after the release. That is why, (in my opinion anyway) the VCI-300 and the NS7 are incredibly tight.

I hope that's relativity clear, like I said, no conspiracy here. Serato and Denon are on very good terms.
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